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SMOKING LAWS TOO HARSH, VOTERS SAY (New York)
Yahoo News ^ | September 8 2003 | FREDRIC U. DICKER

Posted on 09/08/2003 1:01:05 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA

NEW YORKERS over whelmingly believe that Gov. Pataki and the Legislature "went too far" in passing the state's harsh new anti-smoking law, a bombshell new poll shows.

And the poll found they want the law - which took effect July 24 - changed.

The still-secret survey, a copy of which was obtained by The Post, shows that nearly 68 percent of all New York state voters - and 63 percent of city voters - say the controversial anti-smoking ban is too severe.

New Yorkers of all ethnicities agree that the ban went too far: blacks, 78 percent; Hispanics, 68.4 percent; and whites, 66.4 percent;

They also agree it went too far by sex: men, 70.7 percent, and women, 64.5 percent. They even agree it went too far by political orientation: Democrats, 63.8 percent; Republicans, 67.9 percent; independents, 75.3 percent.

And even nonsmokers agree it went too far.

A whopping 62 percent of nonsmokers said the law is too harsh.

The poll also shows a majority of New Yorkers want the law changed.

The poll, conducted by the nationally renowned firm of McLaughlin & Associates, found two out of three voters say Pataki and state lawmakers should modify the law to permit - at the very least - some smoking in bars, nightclubs and lounges.

Just 28 percent said they wanted the current law left the way it is.

The poll - the first to become public since the smoking ban took effect - was commissioned by the state Conservative Party.

It found a majority of New Yorkers believe the state should keep its hands off local smoking regulations and leave it to bar and restaurant owners alone to decide if smoking should be permitted.

Nearly 57 percent of all those surveyed - and nearly 53 percent of New York City voters - said the decision should be left to the private sector.

Just 22 percent said state government should make the decision, and another 17 percent said it should be left to local governments.

"This poll shows that the Legislature and Gov. Pataki went too far," said state Conservative Party Chairman Michael Long.

"Voters wisely know we can find a workable way to handle smoking without big government crushing everybody's freedom of choice," said Long, who is expected to make the poll public as soon as today.

The new poll surveyed 600 likely New York voters July 29-30 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban; pufflist; smoking; smokingban; taxes
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New Yorkers agreeing that Government went to far! There is some hope left!
1 posted on 09/08/2003 1:01:05 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: Outraged At FLA; TLBSHOW
So what are the citizens of New York going to do about it?
2 posted on 09/08/2003 1:02:58 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
So what are the citizens of New York going to do about it?

Armed resistance like Palestine? lol

3 posted on 09/08/2003 1:04:16 PM PDT by smith288 ("The key to our success will be your execution." -Scott Adams)
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To: Fred Mertz
Well, many of them are not going out as much to places they are not welcome. I am one of them. Since this ban went into effect, me and my smoking (and non-smoking) friends decided to have poker night on Saturday instead of going out to a club or show.

This is hitting business and the government tax man in the pocket. That is one way to fix it, and I am also not going to vote for any republican again in NY until I find one who is against the smoking ban.

We have had rallies against the smoking ban and many other things. Much of the media are card carrying members of the American Cancer Society so it does not get much coverage, but believe me, things are in the works!

4 posted on 09/08/2003 1:07:30 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: Fred Mertz
Nozing, nozing et al you cee das govenment knows best vat tu do. Now mach alongs youve little pests.
5 posted on 09/08/2003 1:08:31 PM PDT by marlon
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To: Fred Mertz
So what are the citizens of New York going to do about it?

Probably elect another authoritarian, but this time one who smokes.
6 posted on 09/08/2003 1:10:04 PM PDT by mr.pink
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To: Outraged At FLA
Light up. Mail/FedEx/UPS your cig butts to City Hall, attn Mayor Bloomberg.
7 posted on 09/08/2003 1:11:19 PM PDT by theDentist (Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
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To: theDentist
"Light up. Mail/FedEx/UPS your cig butts to City Hall, attn Mayor Bloomberg."

Would that be considered a terrorist act? lol..

8 posted on 09/08/2003 1:12:58 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: Fred Mertz
So what are the citizens of New York going to do about it?

They will do as her heiness say's. They may never learn from their past mistakes.

To damned bad. I like NY, but it seems that many of the voters want to rule over everyone else's business.
9 posted on 09/08/2003 1:13:15 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: mr.pink
Probably elect another authoritarian, but this time one who smokes

Unclear on the concept; confused like the rest of the Northeast.

Eraserhead is a documentary here.

10 posted on 09/08/2003 1:13:20 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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One would think a similar poll taken before the legislation would show the same thing.

It'll be interesting to watch this play out.

11 posted on 09/08/2003 1:13:28 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Outraged At FLA
No one in the State or City ought to be surprised what Democrats do when left with power--or RINO's... oppressive as it can get with tha fun loving(sic), truthful(sic), and people oriented(sic)Democrat(socialist)party. Puke.
12 posted on 09/08/2003 1:14:55 PM PDT by BamaAndy
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To: Outraged At FLA
Wow! Almost universal agreement across party, ethnic, and non smoker lines. Amazing!
13 posted on 09/08/2003 1:15:04 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Cboldt
One would think a similar poll taken before the legislation would show the same thing.

Yeah, this legislation came out of right field in NY. Noone knew it was even being discussed then one day BOOM, the gods had spoken and NY'ers were told to butt out.

14 posted on 09/08/2003 1:15:20 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: Outraged At FLA
Could it be that Sinator Hitlery is now going to put another stop on the work of the Senate since the EPA did not issue a timely warning about the dangers of street smoke? Are the workers at the WTC site allowed to smoke?

Hitlery is a disgrace to the Senate, and if she runs again in 2006, everything possible should be done to defeat her. I'm hoping she won't run for Prez in 2004. If she does, will she pull a Lieberman and also run for the Senate at the same time?. RATS are scum!

15 posted on 09/08/2003 1:20:06 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus (Freerepublic.com is eTruth!)
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To: Paulus Invictus
Of course Hitllary is against the smoking ban, she doesn't want Bill around any more cigars. :P
16 posted on 09/08/2003 1:21:55 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: Madame Dufarge
Eraserhead is a documentary here.

I lived in NYC for over 20 years, and even though I had gas heat, sometimes Eraserhead did seem like a documentary. ;o)
17 posted on 09/08/2003 1:27:06 PM PDT by mr.pink
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To: mr.pink
BUMP
18 posted on 09/08/2003 1:44:09 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Paulus Invictus
Re: Mrs. Clinton
Congress should legislate a law that would be fair to all who aspire to another government office.

Once elected to office be it dog-catcher or senator; the person elected may not run for another office within the government until their term of commitment is up. That should also cover time in office is not spent campaigning, but should be spent on the job they were elected for. This legislation should be part of a national election, let the people decide, not the politicians.

If smoking is a health hazard, then to be fair, all cleansers, home pest controls, all house hold chemicals: all house hold dyes in carpets, curtains, upholstery, bed spreads and sheets, pillow covers and bath mats etc. must be included in the home hazard list of carcinogenic possibilities. To take it even further – if at the age of 65, men or women who cannot do 10 push-ups and 10 chin ups and walk a 15 minute mile, will have to walk with a crutch or a cane; must wear protective head and knee gear when not in doors. You may not eat burnt food of any sort, it could cause cancer – so no more charcoaling out of doors...ever! Anyone eating more than 20 grams of fat each day will be arrested; put in a sanatorium where they will be fed not more than 6 grams of fat a day on a diet of bread and water, if there is any. Alcohol is a problem, as no one will give up beer and wine.

Smoking is legal and the least of our problems – these nuts need to get a life and leave mine alone!

19 posted on 09/08/2003 1:48:41 PM PDT by yoe
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To: Outraged At FLA
I thought the purpose of the bill was to cut revenue.

It helps wean people off of big government.

I never understood the push for increasing taxes on cigarettes and then asking everyone to stop smoking.
These idiot politicians don't have any economic sense or any ideas about blackmarketeering.

NY needs to get rid of the lawyer politicians and get some practical engineers/economist in office instead.
20 posted on 09/08/2003 1:52:55 PM PDT by Chewbacca (Stay out of debt. Pay cash. When you run out of cash, stop buying things.)
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